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Post  abclare on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 11:57 am

Hi All.
 
Running this Activity got to Langley uncoupled run round to collect Brake then Activity finished Fusable Plug Melted???? Never had this happen before what have i done wrong please??????


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Post  mikehendle on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 12:07 pm

Hi Art,

That is simple you have run out of WATER, you should always check water level in the boiler,and you have enough water in the tender,or tanks,simple answer stop at a water column some where and fill the tank,so you don't run out of water.

When you started the activity were you on shed,if so maybe you should have filled up with water before you left,I always run with MSTS set to automatic fireman it helps.

Oh and BR have just given you the tin tack,the sack.

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Post  abclare on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 12:14 pm

Thanks Mike.

Just passed a water tower if i go back one save i can fillup there will give it a try later.


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Post  mikehendle on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 12:24 pm

Hi Art,
That's the good thing with MSTS,on the real railways you wouldn't be able to save and go back;)

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Post  abclare on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 10:10 pm

Hi Mike.

When running an Activity can you stop at any Water Tower and fill up????


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Post  mikehendle on Sat 22 Jun 2013, 10:31 pm

Hi Art
Yes you can also if you have a tender with a water scoop you can also pick up water from water troughs if they are in the route.
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Post  abclare on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 10:27 am

Hi Mike.

Thanks mate it must be me then i have tried to take on water but cant get it to flow so i think that it must be me not having the tender lined up poroprly i will have another go???? EmbarassedEmbarassed
Mike am i right to say you where a BR  Loco Driver???


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Post  abclare on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 11:54 am

Hi.

Just cant seem to fill up is the filler on the rear of the Tender?? If so there are two places which one do i use please??


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Post  mikehendle on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 12:52 pm

Hi Art,

At the back of the tender in the middle is a large hump that is where the water goes in,the best thing is when the route starts press I think either 1 or f1 and the help comes up scroll down and it will tell you how to add water.

No Art I never worked for BR,I was with B.O.A.C\BA,then worked for South African Railways,and finally Hounslow Council Social Services.

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Post  neanderthal on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 1:55 pm

I'm not sure I want to disagree with people that are much more knowledgeable than myself when it comes to MSTS,but on the Cambrian Route (2) you are told at the start of some activities where you can pick up water,sometimes it appears to only be available at certain places even though there are Water Towers at other locations along the Route-BUT- I may be wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post  mikehendle on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 2:11 pm

Hi Art,

As you are coming off shed I think you need to fill up with water before collecting the tanks,other thing are you using automatic fireman,if not you have to watch the water in the glasses,when it gets low then open the injectors.

Blowing the fusible plug means your boiler is out of water. I think if you press f5 it shows you how much coal and water you have got,and the rate you are using them.


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Post  mendes on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 2:49 pm

Roger is 100% correct. The default setting for water (not troughs) or fuel points is "not working", so any that are required to operate have to be specified by the author from within the AE. Sometimes water columns are purely scenic and will never work.
 
Given that the player loco is an 8F with a full 4,000 gallon tender and that it's only an hour goods run, the most likely cause of the meltdown is the Automatic Fireman being unintentionally unchecked in the MSTS options.
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Post  mikehendle on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 3:17 pm

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When you start the activity what exactly tell what to do I know it say you are on shed and go and collect tanks and take to,does it mention any thing about taking on water or coal before collecting the tank wagons. 

If it doesn't then have you got automatic fireman switched on,if not switch it on,you shouldn't then run out of water,it is the way you are driving the loco,you have to juggle the cut off and regulator and watch the water level in the glasses.If driving with automatic fireman switched off, you also have to use the dampers and injectors,and various other controls.Automatic fireman does all that for you,all you have to do is concentrate on is driving.


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Post  abclare on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 3:44 pm

Hi All.

Just had a look at options and automatic fireman was off now put it on i will know now to make sure it is always on suppose i will have to start the act again?? Thanks you all so much what a wonderful Forum this is.SmileSmile


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Post  abclare on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 7:18 pm

Hi All.

Just started to run this Act again and looked at Cab water level glass showing nothing also F5 is 00.97 surely that cant be correct?????


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Post  slipperman12 on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 7:40 pm

Hi Art,
The 0.97 shown in the F5 display means the boiler contains 97% of the water it requires, ie, it's nearly full!!

If you press the F5 button again, to get the first screen with white printing, have a look down the right hand side, about halfway down the list, you'll see an entry for Water, which shows about 2985lb at the start of the activity.  When you use the Automatic Fireman, this value will be replenished when required.

Hope this helps!

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Post  abclare on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 10:29 pm

Hi Ged.

Thank you i understand now i can complete the act and all down to not having Automatic Fireman.Laughing   Bet you are an ex (LNER) driver?????Cool


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Post  slipperman12 on Sun 23 Jun 2013, 11:01 pm

Hi Art,
Bet you are an ex (LNER) driver?????
No, mate!
I used to work for BREL, in their IT department Smile


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Post  abclare on Mon 24 Jun 2013, 12:05 pm

Hi Ged.

Wrong again.EmbarassedEmbarassedEmbarassed


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Post  mikehendle on Mon 24 Jun 2013, 1:12 pm

Hi Art,

Most of the bigger SAR\SAS steam loco's were a bit like MSTS they had automatic stokers,a screw like contraption that transferred the coal to the boiler,I believe BR trialled some thing similar on the 9f's.

When I was working at Pinetown freight yard and had to go to Mobeni Yard in Durban I used to go down on the cab of a steam loco,or either a 1E or 5E electric loco,the first batch of 1E's were built by MetroVick in 1925 and the final batch by Robert Stephenson and Hawthorn in 1944,a total of 190 were built and ran on  3kv DC,finally withdrawn from service in 1990,a total of 65 years service.

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