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Post  abclare on Fri 23 Aug 2013, 10:51 am

Hi..

Just started the Act 1 Local Goods to Ripley and it says You will need to stop by the signal box to allow the 9F coal train to clear the section, it is waitng at a red signal i have a green i wait and it still waits so i tried moving off when i pass the green Act stops passed red signal????? I have run this Act before and that has never happened??? Any ideas why please??


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Post  slipperman12 on Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:09 pm

Hi Art,
The first thing which comes to mind : Which tsection.dat file are you using? The Burton Derby route uses #38, so if you're using a different one, it MAY explain the problem you're having.

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Post  abclare on Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:40 pm

Hi Ged.

As it is the only Act giving me any trouble i should think it is alright but i dont know how to find out????


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Post  slipperman12 on Fri 23 Aug 2013, 2:47 pm

Hi Art,
Having just run an activity with a similar name on BD2, I'm puzzled!?

There is no activity with the name you specified - the nearest is bcd2_3mt_goods_to_ripley. It doesn't contain any message about waiting for the 9F - in fact, the only 9F I saw was as I was leaving St. Mary's Goods Yard, and it continued straight through - I did have to wait until the line cleared (did shuffle, but may not have been necessary!). If, by waiting, you mean just before crossing the main lines to get to Little Eaton, then, yes, you do have to wait; although there is a freight also waiting (it's not a 9F but an Austerity), you are actually awaiting a DMU which comes off the Long Eaton single line section. Hope this helps, if not, come back! I appreciate that you may be running an earlier version of Burton Derby, in which case, most of my comments won't be relevant !!

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Post  abclare on Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:11 pm

Hi Ged.
Had it a long time but it is V2 dont know if it came on the CD or a download it is as i said Local Goods to Ripley?? But as it is just the one Act i just wont run it all the others run o/k.


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Post  slipperman12 on Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:23 pm

Hi Art,
Sorry Embarassed  I've just found the Activities notes! You're right in that it's the first one on that list, with the name you mentioned (but it doesn't include "Act 1"); it's not the name that's shown in the Activity Selection Screen!

The notes confirmed that the 9F is the one I referred to, which doesn't stop - it's running past as the Player is leaving the sidings. If your 9F is stopped, it's still possible that you're running a different tsection.dat file; it's in the GLOBAL folder and you can open it using NotePad - its version number is near the top of the list.

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Post  abclare on Fri 23 Aug 2013, 3:51 pm

Hi Ged.

Sorry mate the No1 is my number but is the 1st Act i will look at the TSection Dater.


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Post  abclare on Sat 24 Aug 2013, 10:43 am

Hi Ged.

Looked at my Tsection.dat as you said but cant see the number of it  anywhere ???? Only at the top build 0042 ?


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Post  35005CP on Sat 24 Aug 2013, 11:39 am

Hi Art,
That means it is Tsection.dat 42. Which will obviously mean you need Tsection.dat 38. Here is the link to the download; http://members.uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php?form_fileid=27747


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Post  abclare on Sat 24 Aug 2013, 12:23 pm

Hi Andy.

Being as all my Routes and Acts are running well is it worth spoiling it for just one Act??


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Post  slipperman12 on Sat 24 Aug 2013, 1:19 pm

Hi Art,
Being as all my Routes and Acts are running well is it worth spoiling it for just one Act??
Probably not, mate, but if most of your routes are UK or European, it may be better to use the #42UK build. This contains all the enhancements included in #42, except that the signal clearances have been reset to those of #38. It's available at UKTS as file ID 13758.

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Post  abclare on Sat 24 Aug 2013, 2:19 pm

Hi Ged.

If that is what you think i will do it then will you just confrim to me how i should install it like backup the #38  please??


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Post  slipperman12 on Sat 24 Aug 2013, 3:09 pm

Hi Art,
will you just confrim to me how i should install it like backup the #38 please??
Hmmm... You've got me confused with the mention of #38 - I thought you'd got #42 (as confirmed in your earlier post)!

I'm assuming you do have #42 for the following :-
The simplest way is to rename your existing tsection.dat file as tsection42.dat and leave it where it is.
Then unpack download 13758 into a temporary folder and copy the tsection.dat file from there into your GLOBAL folder.

If you ever want to switch back to your original tsection.dat, rename the new one as tsection42UK.dat and rename tsection42.dat as tsection.dat.
If you use Train Store, each route can be allocated its own individual tsection.dat.

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Post  abclare on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 11:22 am

Hi Ged.

Updated tsecton.dat to#42 now the signal is still green but it dont stop me and the coal train follows a long way back:D  Thamks Ged and all others.Very Happy


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Post  abclare on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 11:33 am

slipperman12 wrote:Hi Art,
will you just confrim to me how i should install it like backup the #38  please??
Hmmm... You've got me confused with the mention of #38 - I thought you'd got #42 (as confirmed in your earlier post)!  

I'm assuming you do have #42 for the following :-
The simplest way is to rename your existing tsection.dat file as tsection42.dat and leave it where it is.
Then unpack download 13758 into a temporary folder and copy the tsection.dat file from there into your GLOBAL folder.

If you ever want to switch back to your original tsection.dat, rename the new one as tsection42UK.dat and rename tsection42.dat as tsection.dat.
If you use Train Store, each route can be allocated its own individual tsection.dat.

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Sorry Ged getting in a muddle i mean #42 OK


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Post  neanderthal on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 12:57 pm

SORRY ALLbut now I'm confused(dot com) After sort of following this discussion I went into my Global folder and it appears that I am running on Tsection 38,so is that Ok or not and should I alter it ?Embarassed ?As my Burton Derby wont even load anymore.


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Post  abclare on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 2:05 pm

Hi Roger.

I think that will be a yes it has corrected my problem but i dont think it will help you,just wait i am sure you will get help but a bit more info will be needed i am sure.


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Post  slipperman12 on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 3:54 pm

Hi Roger,
Burton - Derby v2 was, as far as I know, developed with tsection.dat #38.  Mine works without problem with it - and has done since I first used it several years ago!

I suggested that Art's problem was linked to his use of tsection.dat #42, which is known to cause problems with some UK / European routes.  It's the reason #42UK was issued.

There is probably another reason why your route won't load - can you give us more information, please?

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Post  neanderthal on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 4:36 pm

Hello Ged,upon closer inspection I've found that none of my Mini Routes will install,so it must be a fault on my PC,my other Routes on UKTS Cd's are still able to be installed and run well.I have always had problems with the Mini Routes jerking,but they had always downloaded Ok.Just another nail in the coffin for my old XP I'm afraid.Thanks for the interrest though its much appreciated,but  SHOULD I start using tsection#42UK anyway.Kindest Regards,


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Post  rufuskins on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 4:44 pm

When faced with potential TSection problems don't forget to check Mark's post on the subject in the HFL thread here.


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Post  abclare on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 5:12 pm

Hi Alec.

Where is the HFL found is it on UKTS????


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Post  Markh5682 on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 5:23 pm

Hi Art

HFL is the Helpful Facts and Links for MSTS section on this forum.

This is the page Alec was referring to.............

http://tsforum.freeclanforum.com/t178-msts-helpful-facts-and-links-part-18-keeping-up-to-date-with-your-tsectiondat-by-mark-holding

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Post  rufuskins on Sun 25 Aug 2013, 8:11 pm

Art
In my post you will have seen that "here" was in blue and underlined and if you click on the word it will take you to the relevant post.


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Post  abclare on Mon 26 Aug 2013, 2:20 pm

Hi Alec.

Thanks mate i saw that and i used it to get there. Very Happy


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