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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  andrew moody on Tue 14 Oct 2014, 2:15 pm

slipperman12 wrote:Hi Andy,
The MSTS root folder is the folder which contains all the other files and folders of MSTS.  By default, this is Train Simulator (as in Mini-Routes) but yours will be 1MSTS if you followed the Steam4Me tutorial "to the letter".

I'm sorry, but, based of the information you've given, I can't think of a reason for your problem Sad  Obviously, that doesn't help you ... but do any of the default routes work without returning you to the Desktop?  Is it only GE/GE2 that you have problems with?  If so, that's where your problem lies!

Cheers,
Ged



Hi Ged.
Sadly it includes The Whittle Colliery Route as well.
I think I will have to try a total re-install of 1 MSTS, but given all the problems I had originally, I am certainly not looking forward to doing it.
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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  rufuskins on Tue 14 Oct 2014, 3:09 pm

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Should you have to reinstall MSTS, then once you have completed the basic install as per Steam4me I would recommend that you copy the 1MSTS folder in its entirety to another location. Then if things go wrong at a later stage then all you need to do is delete the bad version and copy and paste the stored folder back to 1MSTS.


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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  slipperman12 on Tue 14 Oct 2014, 5:03 pm

Hi Andy,
That is excellent advice by Alec!
May I add to it, by saying that before you add anything, but particularly routes, to MSTS, make a copy of the correctly working root folder somewhere safe. It doesn't have to be kept permanently, only until you need to add something else and take another backup.

If you have plenty of space on the hard drive where MSTS is located, you could use my method and only have one, or two at the most, routes in an installation. When you've finished using one route, rename the root folder accordingly (eg Train Simulator (Highworth), or 1MSTS (Highworth)), then make a copy of the already backed up default installation and give it the name Train Simulator or 1MSTS and add a new route, stock etc.  As the folders are all on the same drive letter, there's no need to move anything.  And so it goes on!  If you begin to run out of space, the backed up folders can be moved on to an external drive, and only copied back to the main drive when required.

This is my current MSTS drive :


As I've been doing a fair amount of testing this year, my individual route installations are on a backup drive, but I think it illustrates what I mean!

Cheers,
Ged

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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  andrew moody on Wed 15 Oct 2014, 1:11 pm

OH! What happened to the post I sent last night? Thank you both Alec and Ged.
I was able to sort the Bullguard anti virus out in the early stages by reporting a "false positive" So this Re-Download 1MSTS is running as smooth as a furnace.
A copy of which is now present on my external hard drive for future reference! I can also report that I have Great Eastern up and running but this time without any
issues with the SRV files.

I still have not been able to locate the Root Folder though, I only have MEP and SCP Mini Routes and Whittle Colliery and GE in my Trainset.

Many thanks once again.

Andy



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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  slipperman12 on Wed 15 Oct 2014, 3:59 pm

Hi Andy,
Sorry if I wasn't clear!
I still have not been able to locate the Root Folder though, I only have MEP and SCP Mini Routes and Whittle Colliery and GE in my Trainset.
A root folder is the basic folder which contains all the files and other folders of any particular software. Looking at MSTS, for example, the ROUTES and TRAINS folders are all in the root folder, whatever it is called. The default root folder for MSTS is called Train Simulator, but yours might be 1MSTS if you followed the Steam4Me tutorial exactly. It doesn't matter what it's called, but you won't find a folder called Root, unless you created one yourself!!
I hope you don't have MEP, SCP and Whittle Colliery in your TRAINSET folder! MEP and SCP should be completely separate folders (as shown in the screenshot of my system) and the Whittle Colliery route should be in your main MSTS installation, in its ROUTES folder. MEP and SCP will contain their own separate TRAINSET folders.

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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  andrew moody on Wed 15 Oct 2014, 8:57 pm

Hi Ged.
Sorry for the confusion MEP and SCP are in their own respective positions in my C drive as is my 1MSTS which as I say is working fine.
I think I will have to manage without the root folder as I don't really understand what it does or if it would help me or not.
I genrally only keep a couple of routes in 1MSTS at a time anyway.
Thanks for your help.
Best wishes
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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  Markh5682 on Wed 15 Oct 2014, 9:13 pm

Hi Andrew.

I think what Ged is trying to tell you is that your main MSTS folder is the root directory, it contains everything in there that you need to run MSTS. OK


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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  andrew moody on Thu 16 Oct 2014, 4:43 pm

Markh5682 wrote:Hi Andrew.

I think what Ged is trying to tell you is that your main MSTS folder is the root directory, it contains everything in there that you need to run MSTS. OK

Hi Mark.
I appreciate what both Ged and yourself are telling me but my problem  is that I am finding all this rather confusing and have no idea how to create a list like Ged has.
Is there any tutorial anywhere on this subject? I have hunted through the steam 4Me site and found nothing relating to it.
I have the routes and activities shown in both Trainstore and ConBuilder so think it would be better for me to leave well alone and stick to known quantaties.
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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  slipperman12 on Thu 16 Oct 2014, 7:21 pm

Hi Andy,
The list I created has nothing to do with MSTS, but is purely use of the Operating System.
Alec and I had a discussion earlier this year about including some tutorials in the Helpful Facts & Links section to cover the use of Cut, Copy & Paste and renaming of files, etc.  I don't know if it's time to resurrect those ideas but if we did, we'd only be repeating what is already available on the net!  For example, have a look here : http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/working-with-files-folders#1TC=windows-7

In the "old days", Microsoft used to supply manuals with their Operating Systems; I remember the Windows 3 manual was quite a size, but the DOS 5 one was a veritable tome - it was HUGE!!

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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  andrew moody on Fri 17 Oct 2014, 2:17 pm

Another Problem, I have been busy downloading various activities and checking stock etc, so have not yet run anything, I forgot to install MSTS Bin 1.8 version.

Now I am unable to do so, as I get an message The File C:\1MSTS is not a valid previous version and can not be upgraded.
I do not have any previous versions of Bin installed, I am at a loss to understand why it will not install.
Any help very much appreciated.
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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  slipperman12 on Fri 17 Oct 2014, 3:04 pm

Hi Andy,
Don't worry, mate - there's no need to cry Smile

You must install the MSTS update available from the Steam4Me site : http://msts.steam4me.net/MSTS_Updates/index.html

NOTE : When running this update it defaults to "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games......."; you MUST change it to C:\1MSTS to put it in the correct place for your installation.

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Re: (Re) installing MSTS on Windows 7

Post  andrew moody on Fri 17 Oct 2014, 11:11 pm

slipperman12 wrote:


NOTE : When running this update it defaults to "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games......."; you MUST change it to C:\1MSTS to put it in the correct place for your installation.

Thanks Ged.
That was excactly what occured, I was downloading a class 104 DMMU  last night and it went into the main 1MSTS folder causing Trainstore  to throw a big hissy fit and refuse to "talk" to 1MSTS, the result was that I had to do another Full re-Install Embarassed  but I saved my Routes and Trains folders first. That was where the updates went into  Micro games instead
of 1MSTS.
Thanks again, Will try to stay out of trouble. Rolling Eyes
Cheers
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